HP Pavilion TouchSmart 23-f260xt review: This clunky-looking budget all-in-one will save you money and space

HP Pavilion TouchSmart 23-f260xt $800.00 HP resurrected the all-in-one concept many years ago, but there's nothing particularly great about this model. Here's hoping the company shakes the industry up again soon.

I love the sturdy, rectangular stands on the Toshiba and Dell all-in-ones, but I must admit they’re not exactly space efficient. HP’s Pavilion TouchSmart 23, which costs $800 as of 8/29/13, might not be the most attractive AIO of the bunch, but its signature picture-frame design certainly helps it take up less desktop real estate, which is always a plus if you’re trying to fit a 23-inch TouchScreen AIO on a cramped dorm-room desk.

The HP Pavilion TouchSmart 23’s design is functional, if not very sexy. The system has a glossy 23-inch touchscreen, which is surrounded by a slim bezel under edge-to-edge glass. Around this bezel is another bezel that’s thicker and fabricated from matte-black plastic. A silver metal frame is wrapped around this, extending past the bottom of the screen (where the speakers are located) to rest on your desktop. The entire system is propped up via an easel-like stand, which is sturdy, space-efficient, and easy to adjust.

HP's Pavilion TouchSmart is a well-built all-in-one, but a middle-of-the-road performer.

The biggest issue with this design is that it’s just not very attractive. While the Toshiba and the Dell look like they’re floating in midair, the TouchSmart 23 just looks clunky. And don’t even get me started on the bezel-within-a-bezel look.

Design issues aside, the HP Pavilion TouchSmart 23 is a solidly average performer, with a Intel Core i3-3220T processor; 6GB of DDR3/1600 memory; and 1TB, 7200rpm hard drive working together to deliver a Desktop Worldbench 8.1 score of 110. Like the other systems in this roundup, the TouchSmart 23 is good for schoolwork and basic entertainment, but not great for graphics-intensive editing or high-resolution gaming. In our Dirt Showdown graphics test (1024 by 768 pixels, image quality at Low), the TouchSmart 23 managed a barely playable 32.5 frames per second. Its BioShock Infinite performance, at the same settings, was worse: just 15.9 frames per second.

None of the all-in-ones delivered great gaming performances, but some machines were definitely better than others.

The TouchSmart 23 display resolution is the typical 1920 by 1080 resolution. It looks good: Images and text are crisp and colors are accurate, but I couldn’t shake the perception that video looked dull on this machine. Perhaps I’m used to looking at oversaturated, strangely vibrant screens, but the TouchSmart 23 just seemed to lack oomph. It is, on the other hand, a very good touchscreen, with smooth, accurate touch and a slick, sensitive surface.

The system also boasts a very usable wired USB keyboard, with flat, island-style keys, excellent feedback, and a comfortable feel. It’s a bit loud, but had no problem typing quickly and accurately on it. The mouse, which is also a wired USB model, felt just a little less comfortable. Its shiny, curved form factor isn’t very ergonomically designed, and it felt a bit awkward in my hand.

PCWorld's Desktop Worldbench 8.1 benchmark suite measures performance with a number of productivity, creation, and entertainment programs.

HP’s Pavilion TouchSmart 23 is a sturdy-looking computer with a slim, space-saving design. Although it lacks the minimalist sexiness that many other AIOs boast, it’s a solid performer with decent peripherals, a good port selection (including two USB 3.0 ports), and acceptable performance.

Editor's note: This all-in-one was reviewed as part of a roundup for back-to-school season. You can read that story, along with reviews of the five all-in-ones we compared it to, here.

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HP Pavilion TouchSmart 11z-e000 review: A budget 11.6-inch touchscreen laptop that runs at a snail's pace

HP Pavilion TouchSmart 11z-e000 $430.00 If you must have a notebook with a touchscreen, HP delivers a lot of computer for very little money. But you’ll need to be patient with this one’s performance.

HP’s Pavilion TouchSmart 11z-e000 is one the smallest, lightest, and least expensive notebooks we’ve ever reviewed. It’s also one of the slowest, finishing dead last on nearly every criterion in our five-system roundup except two important ones: weight and battery life.

Despite carrying a price tag of just $410, this Pavilion has a touchscreen. It measures just 11.6 inches, but delivers ten-point touch and the same 1366-by-768-pixel resolution as the other budget notebooks we looked at. Once you get over its diminutive size, you realize that the display is actually pretty good. Though it has a minor issue with vertical off-axis viewing, it’s much better than the screen on the Toshiba T Satellite L55Dt-A5253. Augmenting the Pavilion’s touchscreen is a trackpad that supports Windows 8 gestures such as two-finger scrolling, zoom, and rotate. Mechanical right and left mouse buttons are situated beneath the pad.

HPThe HP Pavilion TouchSmart 11z-e000 is a very inexpensive touchscreen laptop.

Apart from its small size, the Pavilion doesn’t look like a cheap PC. Though its case is composed almost entirely of plastic, the finishes on the lid and chassis are dead ringers for brushed aluminum, and the computer feels very sturdy despite being just 0.86 inch thick. Although this laptop was one of the lightest we considered for our roundup, its 3.4-pound heft is not especially impressive for its overall size.

As you might expect, the most powerful notebooks also had the shortest battery life.

If you have large fingers, you won’t like the reduced size of the Pavilion’s non-backlit keyboard. The keys are only slightly smaller than average, but the difference drove me crazy during touch-typing sessions. The laptop is too small to accommodate a numeric keypad, too—and I loathe its arrow keys’ design. Rather than laying them out in the familiar inverted T formation, HP made the right and left keys oversize, and the up and down keys half-size—and bookended by the other two.

The Fn keys have common tasks (such as volume and media player control) assigned to them by default, so you don’t have to hold down a second key to use them for those purposes. Speaking of media, the Pavilion has surprisingly good speakers, augmented by DTS Sound+ audio-processing software.

Benchmark performance

Egad, is this computer ever slow! Much of the blame can be laid at the 1GHz AMD A4-1250 processor that runs the show. This is paired with 4GB of DDR3/1333 memory, which HP says is upgradeable to 8GB. But since the machine has only one DIMM slot, you’ll need to toss the existing 4GB DIMM to do so (unless you buy the 8GB version at the outset). Our review model came with a 500GB hard-drive upgrade (the stock machine packs a 320GB hard drive), but both drives spin their platters at an unhurried 5400 rpm. There is no SSD option available, and the only optical drive option is external.

Our Notebook WorldBench 8.1 suite includes a broad array of benchmarks for evaluating a notebook's performance.

The Pavilion TouchSmart’s pitiful Notebook WorldBench 8.1 score of 64 matches that of the $539 Dell Latitude 3330, but its scores on most of the other benchmarks are significantly worse than the Dell’s. For example, the Latitude earned a PCMark 7 Productivity score of 932, versus the Pavilion’s mark of 348. And the HP’s scores on our media editing and encoding tests were off-the-chart bad. On the plus side, the superior graphics processor integrated into the AMD A4 processor helped level the playing field in at least some of our gaming benchmarks.

Connectivity and conclusion

One of the ways that HP kept this computer’s price so slow was by provisioning it with cheap networking capabilities. The Realtek RTL8188EE Wi-Fi adapter is a single-band 802.11n model that supports a maximum physical link rate of just 150 mbps, and its hardwired ethernet adapter maxes out at 100 mbps.

HPHP's Pavilion TouchSmart is less than 1 inch thick, but it's rather heavy for its size.

For better wireless networking performance, you can plug an adapter into one of the Pavilion’s USB ports. It has two USB 3.0 ports and one USB 2.0 port, plus a multiformat media card reader. HP provides both HDMI and VGA video outputs.

The HP Pavilion TouchSmart 11z-e000 is tough to beat on price—you get a lot of computer for the money. Its closest rival in price—Dell’s Latitude 3330—costs $100 more, doesn’t have a touchscreen, and carries a smaller hard drive. The Dell is slightly faster and has a larger display, but I think the TouchSmart 11z is a better value in the long run.

Editor's note: This notebook was reviewed as part of a roundup for back-to-school season. You can read that story, along with reviews of the five notebooks we compared it to, here.

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HP Pavilion HPE h9-1120t Phoenix: High-End Features at a Great Price

At $1689 (as configured), the HP Pavilion HPE h9-1120t pushes the "budget" part of the Budget PC category, but that doesn't mean it's not an excellent deal. This desktop has tons of great higher-end features--including multiple USB 3.0 ports and a 2TB hard drive, plus a fast graphics card with 2GB of frame buffer--all at a decent, if not dirt-cheap, price.

Our review model sports a third-generation "Ivy Bridge" Intel Core i7 processor (the i7-3770K, to be exact), 12GB of RAM, and a 2TB, 7200-rpm hard drive. This budget desktop also has an AMD Radeon HD 7950 discrete graphics card, a Blu-ray disc player/DVD-writer optical drive, and an 802.11n dual-stream wireless card. The h9-1120t runs a 64-bit version of Windows 7 Home Premium.

Performance

The HP h9-1120t performs well for a budget PC. In PCWorld's WorldBench 7 benchmark tests, the h9-1120t scores 121 out of 100, which means it's 21 percent faster than our base testing model. This isn't a big surprise, since our testing model only has a second-generation Intel Core i5-2500K processor and 8GB of RAM. Compared with other budget desktops, such as the MicroExpress MicroFlex 37B, the h9-1120t doesn't look so hot--the MicroFlex 37B scores 172 on WorldBench 7, but it also has a speedy solid-state boot drive, which drastically improves its WB7 score.

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The HP h9-1120t's gaming score is 87, which is slightly above average for its category. In our Crysis 2 graphics tests, the h9-1120t managed frame rates of between 29.3 frames per second (ultrahigh settings, 2560-by-1600-pixel resolution) all the way up to 96.7 fps (low settings, 1024-by-768-pixel resolution). The h9-1120t's performance is similar to that of the MicroFlex 37B's--that system managed frame rates of between 24.6 fps and 97.7 fps (at same settings and screen resolutions).

Chassis: Design and Interior

The h9-1120t is housed in a medium-sized, typical-looking tower. The case has a shiny black plastic front with matte silver plastic accents and flat black metal sides. The right side (if you're facing the machine) has a small angular plastic window through which shines red LEDs, while the left side is stamped with a large HP logo.

On the front of the tower you'll find the Blu-ray drive, an expansion bay slot, and a 15-in-1 card reader bay with four USB 2.0 ports. The card reader bay is located under a sliding plastic door, which feels a little flimsy. The power button is located on the top of the tower, along with two USB 3.0 ports and headphone and microphone jacks.

The rest of the ports are located on the back of the h9. Here you'll find two additional USB 3.0 ports (for a total of four) and four additional USB 2.0 ports (for a total of eight). There's also a gigabit ethernet port, an optical audio-out, and support for 7.1 surround sound. The AMD graphics card holds the graphics ports: one DVI, one HDMI, and two mini-DisplayPorts.

The inside of the h9-1120t is a little messy. Colorful wires are held together with white zip-ties--not neatly bundled into black mesh, but not a rat's nest either. There's one empty 5.25-inch bay, two empty 3.5-inch bays, and one PCIe x1 slot that's both empty and accessible. HP does make tinkering a little more difficult than it has to be by adding metal scaffolding inside the tower--chassis rails that must be removed using a screwdriver before you can start working inside the machine.

Peripherals

Our review model, as priced, comes with basic, USB-wired peripherals, though you can upgrade to wireless peripherals or a Beats Audio-enhanced backlit keyboard for an additional $10 on HP's website.

The included keyboard is black with silver accents and flat, regular-style keys. It's comfortable to type on, and the large keys give good physical feedback. It's also quiet. There are few frills on the keyboard--basic audio control buttons, as well as an Fn-operated Beats Audio key for toggling HP's Beats Audio software on and off.

The mouse is your typical optical affair, with two buttons and a scroll wheel. It feels a little small in my hand, which is significant--I have small hands--and the buttons are a little stiff. The scroll wheel works well, though, and the mouse is quick and responsive on-screen.

The Bottom Line

The HP Pavilion HPE h9-1120t may not be the prettiest or most powerful PC around, but it's a good deal for the price. Not only do you get decent graphics and gaming performance, you also get four USB 3.0 ports, built-in Wi-Fi, a Blu-ray disc player/DVD-writer (for an additional $80 you can snag a Blu-ray disc writer), and 2TB of hard-drive space.

The h9-1120 performs well for its class, and is a good choice for budget-minded gamers. If you don't need the extra graphics power, you can also order the h9-1120t with a lesser graphics card: The base model comes with an AMD Radeon HD 7670, which will save you $429.

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Deal of the Day: Core i7 HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition Just $699

Today’s deal of the day is another great one for gamers. The 17.3-inch HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition boasts a 2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-2670QM Quad-core processor (TurboBoost up to 2.9-GHz), 8GB of RAM, 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 7470M graphics and 750GB hard drive — more than enough power to handle the latest games and HD movies. Normally $1,249, the HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition is available for $699 plus free shipping through a deal at LogicBUY.

When we reviewed the Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition, we loved its strong quad-core performance, solid gaming frame rates, high-quality Beats Audio and attractive design. In addition to its powerful hardware, the laptop features Beats audio and HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer, TrueVision HD webcam, and a fingerprint reader. A stylish metallic finish ensures that the machine looks as good as it runs. Buyers also have the option of upgrading to a 1080p anti-glare screen, steel grey/dark umber system colors, 2GB Radeon HD 7690M graphics and up to 16GB of RAM.

Base specs: 2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-2670QM Quad-core processor (TurboBoost up to 2.9-GHz), 8GB of RAM, 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 7470M graphics, 750GB hard drive, 17.3? HD+ BrightView LED LCD, 6-cell battery, 8X DVD+/-RW, TrueVision HD webcam with Mic, Fingerprint Reader, 802.11n WiFi, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Beats superior audio, USB 3.0, fingerprint reader, HP Coolsense technology, 2-year warranty

HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition with a 2.2-GHz Core i7 CPU, 8GB of RAM, 1GB ATI Graphics and 750GB HDD for $699 through LogicBUY.

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Deal of the Day: Core i7 HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition Just $837

Today’s deal of the day is another great one for gamers. The 17.3-inch HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition boasts a 2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-2670QM Quad-core processor (TurboBoost up to 2.9-GHz), 8GB of RAM, 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 7470M graphics and 750GB hard drive — more than enough power to handle the latest games and HD movies. Normally $1,249, the HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition is available for $812 plus free shipping through a deal at LogicBUY.

When we reviewed the Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition, we loved its strong quad-core performance, solid gaming frame rates, high-quality Beats Audio and attractive design. In addition to its powerful hardware, the laptop features Beats audio and HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer, TrueVision HD webcam, and a fingerprint reader. A stylish metallic finish ensures that the machine looks as good as it runs. Buyers also have the option of upgrading to a 1080p anti-glare screen, steel grey/dark umber system colors, 2GB Radeon HD 7690M graphics and up to 16GB of RAM.

Base specs: 2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-2670QM Quad-core processor (TurboBoost up to 2.9-GHz), 8GB of RAM, 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 7470M graphics, 750GB hard drive, 17.3? HD+ BrightView LED LCD, 6-cell battery, 8X DVD+/-RW, TrueVision HD webcam with Mic, Fingerprint Reader, 802.11n WiFi, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Beats superior audio, USB 3.0, fingerprint reader, HP Coolsense technology, 2-year warranty

HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition with a 2.2-GHz Core i7 CPU, 8GB of RAM, 1GB ATI Graphics and 750GB HDD for $812 through LogicBUY.

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Deal of the Day: Save 30% On HP Pavilion dm1z Ultraportable Laptop

If you want an ultraportable laptop that’s affordable but still easy on the eyes, the HP Pavilion dm1z — today’s deal of the day — is the way to go. The 11.6-inch laptop features an attractive design, weighs just 3.5 pounds and is only 0.8 inches thick. And with a 1.6-GHz processor and 4GB of RAM, it has enough power to handle everyday tasks with ease. Normally $499, the HP Pavilion dm1z is available for just $349 plus free shipping through a deal at LogicBUY.

When we reviewed the Pavilion dm1z, we gave it four out of five stars and an Editor’s Choice, praising it for its attractive design, excellent battery life, superior sound and comfortable keyboard. The laptop lasts up to 9.5 hours on a charge and is powered by a 1.6-GHz AMD processor, Radeon HD 6310M discrete-class graphics, and 4GB of RAM. For just $25 more you can upgrade to an AMD Dual-Core Processor E-450 (1.65-GHz, 1MB L2 Cache) plus AMD Radeon HD 6320M discrete-class graphics.

Base specs: 1.6-GHz AMD E-300 Dual-core CPU; Radeon HD 6310M Graphics; 4GB RAM; 320GB HDD; 6-cell battery; 11.6? LED BrightView LCD; 802.11n WiFi; Bluetooth; Windows 7 Home Premium

HP Pavilion dm1z Ultraportable Laptop with a 1.6-GHz AMD CPU, 4GB of RAM and 320GB HDD for $349 through LogicBUY.

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HP Pavilion dm4 Beats Edition: Great Sound and Style at a Reasonable Price

The HP Pavilion dm4 Beats Edition does a lot for a little. The moderately priced laptop boasts sturdy, striking design, powerful speakers, a generous allotment of external ports, good battery life, and an Intel Core i5 processor. It's not perfect in every way, but it's a solid laptop for the busy audiophile on a budget, with an eye for the urbane.

The Beats brand is endorsed by rapper and hip-hop producer Dr. Dre. So it should come as no surprise that style and high-quality sound components come standard.

The aesthetic appeal of the slim profile and matte-black, brushed-aluminum case of our 14-inch review model can't be denied. The dm4, which starts at $900 and peaks out at around $2000 fully loaded, looks and feels great. Typing on the backlit red-on-black keys is a breeze. An inch thick, this 4.5-pound all-purpose laptop slips neatly into any work-sized bag without weighing you down.

Despite its compact frame, the dm4 packs a punch and goes toe-to-toe with the specs of many laptops in its class. It has a generous allotment of three USB ports (one 2.0 and two 3.0), as well as two display ports (VGA and HDMI), an SD/MMC memory card input, and an ethernet port. Beneath its pretty shell, our entry-level test unit boasts 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi, WLAN, Bluetooth, an Intel Core i5-2430M processor, 6GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive, and Intel integrated graphics.

Of the most recent all-purpose laptops reviewed by PCWorld, the Pavilion dm4's battery outlasted all but one — the Asus U46SV, which held a charge for 6 hours, 41 minutes in our lab, more than an hour longer than the dm4's 5 hours, 23 minutes.

The dm4 Beats Edition bested the HP Envy 15, Lenovo IdeaPad U400, and VAIO S Series with a moderate WorldBench 6 score of 120. The Asus U46SV earned a slightly higher WorldBench 6 score of 123.

While the Beats series of headphones are often derided by audio enthusiasts as being of middling quality while posing as high-end (I'm not disputing it), one of this laptop's clearest strengths is the built-in speakers. Aided by the Beats Audio control interface — which is different from the much simpler Windows sound panel — the dm4 Beats Edition really kicks. It can get loud without sounding overdriven, and the Beats Audio control panel is a big improvement over the Windows sound controls (with a nine-band graphic equalizer and special built-in microphone filters). What would a laptop endorsed by a rap legend be without bass? The lower frequencies really hold up coming from the on-board stereo speakers with subwoofer.

It's just a shame that HP decided to position the speakers on the underside of the front of the device. That placement only serves to ensure that you will muffle your tunes when listening with the dm4 on your lap, especially in bed, and especially since the HP Cool Sense feature on our review model lets you enjoy using the laptop on your lap without cooking your thighs. I used the HP Pavilion dm4 Beats Edition to take notes at a recent presentation in a crowded theatre. I typed away with the device on my lap for nearly 40 minutes and my legs never got too hot, nor did the bottom of the computer feel all that warm to the touch when I finished.

This configuration of the dm4 Beats Edition, however, is certainly not for gaming. It shows average performance at low resolutions (48 frames per second when playing Dirt 2 and 40 on Far Cry 2 at 800 by 600 resolution), and much poorer frame rates as the resolution increases (22 fps on Dirt 2, and 15.1 fps on Far Cry 2 at 1024 by 768). Although its LED display (backlighting is optional) is HD-capable and decent for watching DVDs (no Blu-ray option is available) and for streaming videos, the colors are bit flat.

Budget-conscious gamers should look into the Asus U46SV, which scored much higher in this area, or at least spring for the $100 Radeon HD 7470 discrete graphics option. If you can spend a bit more, look into the Asus G53SX — by far the strongest performer of all our recently reviewed all-purpose laptops.

The trackpad can be a bit jumpy, and I often found myself pressing it a bit harder than I thought I should have to in order to engage the cursor, but the ability to double-tap the upper right-hand corner of the trackpad to disable it is nice, especially since the cursor sometimes jumps around due to poor palm detection. Also nice are the unit's multitouch gestures — pinch to zoom, twist to rotate, and up-down/side-to-side scrolling. The fingerprint reader is a cool feature as well, though I'm not sure if I'd ever use it.

The HP dm4 Beats Edition didn't score the highest ratings in our lab tests, and it in some ways it certainly leaves you wanting. But for under $1000 this laptop will do most anything you need it to do (gaming aside) with respectable efficiency — all while keeping your beats bumping.

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Deal of the Day: Save 35% On Core i7 HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition

With today’s deal of the day, you can get a monster machine for less than $850. The 17.3-inch HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition comes equipped with a 2.2-GHz Core i7-2670QM “Sandy Bridge” Quad-core processor (which can reach up to 2.9-GHz using TurboBoost), 8GB of RAM, 2GB Radeon HD 7690M GDDR5 graphics, and 750GB hard drive. Normally $1,249, the HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition is just $812 plus free shipping through a deal at LogicBUY.

 When we reviewed the Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition, we gave it 4 stars and praised the notebook for its strong quad-core performance, solid gaming frame rates, high-quality Beats Audio and attractive design. Its 17.3-inch HD LED display offers crystal-clear images Beats Audio (with built-in HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer) gives you the sound quality to match. An HD webcam and fingerprint reader are just icing on the cake. 

Base specs: 2.2-GHz Core i7-2670QM “Sandy Bridge” Quad-core processor (TurboBoost up to 2.9-GHz), 8GB of RAM, 2GB Radeon HD 7690M GDDR5 graphics, 750GB hard drive, 17.3-inch HD LED Display, Beats superior audio; TrueVision HD webcam; USB 3.0; 8X DVD burner, 6-cell battery, 802.11n Wi-Fi; Fingerprint reader; Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

HP Pavilion dv7 Quad Edition Laptop with a 2.2-GHz Core i7 Quad-core CPU, 8GB of RAM, 2GB Radeon HD graphics and 750GB HDD for $812 through LogicBUY.

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Deal of the Day: Save $350 on HP Pavilion dm4t Beats Edition

Looking for a super-sleek, unique laptop with a fast processor and great speakers (paying homage to its namesake)? Look no further. HP’s Pavilion dm4t Beats Edition, which just came out in December, is $350 off. Normally $1,100, the 14-inch HP Pavilion dm4t Beats Edition is available for $750 today plus free shipping through a deal at LogicBUY.

When we reviewed the black-and-red laptop, we praised its cool all-black aluminum lid highlighted with a red center and the subtle curves of the design. But the exterior wasn’t all we liked. Its soft-touch palm rest, anti-glare treatment and impressive processor earned it 3 and a half stars. Not to mention its Beats audio, which featured two speakers a subwoofer but had hollow sound at times.

Base specs: Core i5-2430M 2.4 GHz, 8GB RAM, 750GB 5400RPM hard drive, Intel HD 3000 graphics, 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, 14? 1366 x 768 BrightView LED LCD, 8X DVD+/-RW, 720p HD webcam, backlit keyboard, fingerprint reader, Windows 7 Premium 64-bit

HP Pavilion dm4t Beats Edition for $750 plus free shipping through LogicBUY

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